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A Timer for Your Water Heater & Other Energy Saving Tips

Submitted by: Rhonda  02/27/2009 2:44 PM
 
Editor's Note: This tip was submitted in response to a TipHero comment on a Simple Tip to Save Money on Hot Water:
So then if you could put your water heater on a timer and turn it off from say 10PM to 6AM, then you would have 8 hours of energy savings. Has anyone tried this? Can it be done?
Posted by ThrifT on February 25, 2009 1:06 PM

To ThrifT:

YES absolutely this works (for electric hot water heaters), but think more aggressively than that. I have a timer on my water heater, and only run it for morning showers (5:00am-7:00am), and then from 6pm-7pm at night (for dishwasher).

You see, a regular hot water heater works like this....every time the water temp drops AT ALL below the set temp (even by one degree), the strips come on to heat it back to temp, so it's cycling on/off/on/off throughout the day, even though no one's using water. The timer means that the heater doesn't attempt to keep the temp at this set degree, UNLESS it's in the ON mode. When it's off, the water can drop 5 degrees if it wants, but the strip doesn't come on to maintain temp. They ALL come with an override switch, that you can turn on if you need water outside of your set times.




I worked with 2 different neighbors in the past 3 months, to set up the same system in their house. Originally they were concerned about having enough hot water, so set it to run except when asleep. I convinced them to set it back more (say 3 hours morning, 2 hours evening). One neighbor was amazed that one afternoon he came home for lunch, showered, and had PLENTY of hot water. His bill (with this, and a few other simple efforts) brought his bill down $80 first month!

Another neighbor, with 3 boys did the same thing (only about 4-5 hours a day with it on), changed 12 lightbulbs to CFL, and started turning off computer when not in use. The 1st PARTIAL month's bill (maybe 2 weeks worth) came down over $30.

There are tons of websites to help you reduce your energy usage. Consider this, on average, Heating & AC = 50% of bill, water heating - 15-20%, lighting - 5-15%, appliances - 10-20%?.

The absolute best things you can do for energy savings (including water) are:

  1. turn off stuff you're not using -lights, TVs, PlayStation, etc)- energy conservation is the easiest and the only FREE option

  2. Install a programmable thermostat and SET IT. No need to heat/cool a house when you're not even there, and the thermostat will heat/cool to your desired temp right before you get home. If you already do this, then adjust the temp 1-2 degrees from current (it will make a difference).

  3. Of course, I highly recommend the water heater timer (costs about $60-$70 at Lowes in my area), and set to run only a few hours/day. For those of you on natural gas, I don't think they have timers for you guys, because the pilot light is always running. But if that's not an option, then use LESS hot water - wash clothes in cold or warm, take shorter showers (baths use HUGE amounts of hot water), add aerators to your shower & faucets etc. I know one couple with teenage daughers who has a timer on the lights in the bathroom (like heat lamps in hotel showers). If the girls are in the shower past the pre-set time (maybe 10 minutes), the lights go out. (you can also use an obnoxious alarm that has to be cut off)




  4. If at all possible, replace/unplug old or underutilized appliances. If your refrigerator, dishwasher, etc is anywhere close to 10 years old, it's sucking energy. Replace with Energy Star versions. Also, that extra fridge in the basement used to cool beverages is a MAJOR energy hog. UNPLUG IT!

  5. replace those incandescents with CFLs. Prices now average about $2/bulb. LEDs are even better option, but still very pricey (but coming down fast). I'd recommend earthled.com if you're able to afford the LED option. Replace the lights you use the most - no need to do closets, attic, etc. Make sure you try out different bulbs before purchasing a lot to decide which works best for you. Incandescents have one color - yellow, CFLs have about 3 colors - yellow (soft white), whiter (cool white), and more like daylight (daylight). The daylight may have a slight bluish tint the first minute or two, and then puts off better quality light than the others (in my opinion).

  6. POOL OWNERS - if you own a pool, you do NOT need to run that pump as long as the pool guys say. It's likely using a LOT of energy. A study in FL indicated that pools could be maintained for 3-5 hrs/day (best to divide that across the day, instead of one long session).

    My neighbor was told by his pool guy that his pump (aboveground, 32 foot round pool) costs him about $30/month running it 24/7...which was a HUGE lie. You can figure the approximate energy of any motor yourself (ie. refrigerator, dryer, etc - realizing that sometimes the numbers are bestcase scenario, and that efficiency will likely decrease over time).

    Here's how to do it:
    The pump was 115 volts, and 12 amps (labeled on the pump).
    Volts times amps = watts, so this pump uses about 1,380 watts EVERY HOUR it's running.
    Say, you run it 12 hours/day (as recommended), that's 16,560 watts/day, or 16.5 kW (divide by 1,000)every day.
    At 10 cents/kw, it costs you $1.66/day, or about $50/month to run it 12 hours/day, or about $100/month to run it 24/7.

Hope this helps. This is just the tip of the iceberg. There's SO many ways to cut energy bills, but these tend to give the biggest bang for your buck.
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In 1970 during the last big conservation push I bought a timed thermostat. First, when it kicks on to warm the house the furnace has to use a lot of energy to warm everything up again like the walls furniture etc. The burst of energy negates any energy saving. Next, weekends you are home all day so you have to reset the thermostate again. If you forget, you freeze until things warm up again. Maybe the modern ones can be set for weekends. But, will they set for those days you are home sick or holidays?

Next, it is impossible to calculate energy saving in a home that is being heated because every Feb. is not the same. I was gone a month last Feb. and set the thermostat for 50. No one was there to open the door and it was cold with snow. I did not notice a difference in energy use.

Another complication is that the gas company does not read the meter every month. They estimate it alternate months. Then if you seal your house real tight there is a possible mold problem or indoor pollution. Think about it this way. If you were riding a bicycle, which would be easier on you? Starting and stopping or rolling along at a steady pace?

Now, for the new light bulbs. I had one installed one day and I tossed the receipt. The bulb blew in a week. Other bulbs gave a light nobody liked, so those were tossed. I also hear the new bulbs contain mercury.

Finally, in 1970 people saved a lot of natural gas (probably because a lot of places closed) so the gas company had to raise prices to make a profit.

Everybody talks about global warming. How do these experts know the cause? Chicago's Lake Michigan water level (5 feet over the years) goes up and down and surrounded by people. Yet no one knows why the water level changes. Still the experts know the cause of global warming.

I did not go to Florida and it is March now because it is so cold there right down to the Keys. I think it is just a normal fluctuation like the "little ice age."

Remember in "A Christmas Carol" where Scrooge had his hat knocked off by a snow ball? Well, it snowed in England this year for the first time in who knows how long. If the ice caps are getting thinner, why is it that ocean levels have not gone up? When the pyramids went up, Egypt was not a desert. Why did all the ice ages come and go before man was even on the planet? Why did the north and south poles switch hundreds of times over the last 4 billion or so years? Why did the dinosaurs disappear almost all at the same time? I also think it is nuts that I have to worry about the survival of a polar bear that is a known man eater. Besides, if there is less ice, I would think it would be easier to find a seal.

I'm all for saving energy, but one must be careful about the consequences. For many people the green thing is just a warm fuzzy and has little or even a negative impact on the environment let alone your pocket book.
 
Posted by james77777 on March 05, 2009 5:02 PM
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James, I so like the way you think. Thank you for offering your take on these issues! I share them myself! Lisa in Naples, NY
 
Posted by Lisa in Naples, NY on March 06, 2009 6:34 PM
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James asked, "If the ice caps are getting thinner, why is it that ocean levels have not gone up?" That's because most of the ice that is melting is sea ice. Sea ice floats on the ocean, like ice in your beverage. When it melts, it does not change the level of the beverage, nor will it change the level of the oceans. The ice on the land that melts should cause the level of the ocean to change.
 
Posted by Karen on March 14, 2009 11:14 PM
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Should you run your pool filter when you have swimmers in the pool? Or is it okay to just run it for a set time in the am and a set time in the pm

Sonya
 
Posted by Sonya Yoder on March 28, 2009 9:49 PM
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are tankless water heaters efficient?
 
Posted by dusty on April 18, 2009 7:02 PM
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tankless water heatesr are expensive, look for tax credits and you might be able to make your money back.

chekc out this report on consumer reports:

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/appliances/heating-cooling-and-air/water-heaters/tankless-water-heaters/overview/tankless-water-heaters-ov.htm
 
Posted by anonymous on April 28, 2009 6:45 PM
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dusty, yes!!! tankless water heats are the most energy efficient water heaters on the market that I know of. essentially an on demand system so you don't waste all of that energy heating up a giant tank of water. if you can afford one, you should get one, just make sure you get the right size for your estimated water usage.
 
Posted by anonymous on April 28, 2009 9:34 PM
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Newer water heaters all have way better insulation than the older ones. With this in mind, and what I've just read about these tankless systems and their high price tag, questionable performance, and not super impressive energy savings, it seems a no-brainer to me. Spend your money on a new water tank! Just keep in mind that the new tanks, because of their better insulation, they are a little bigger around than your older one, which if it is already in a tight space, will make installation trickier. If you rent your tank from your utility provider, most times they will gladly replace older inefficient tanks with new, more efficient ones. Mine was free! With this tank replacement my hydro bill went down about $20 a month.
 
Posted by Bill (in cold Canada) on October 01, 2009 2:10 PM
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